{"id":10689,"date":"2024-03-29T02:51:00","date_gmt":"2024-03-29T02:51:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/stevegrossblog.com\/?p=10689"},"modified":"2026-10-02T01:32:26","modified_gmt":"2026-10-02T01:32:26","slug":"faulty-premises-of-psa","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stevegrossblog.com\/?p=10689","title":{"rendered":"FAULTY PREMISES OF PSA"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As far as I can tell, the logic behind Penal Substitutionary Atonement goes like this:<\/p>\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\">\n\n<li>God is just.<\/li>\n\n\n<li>Therefore, God\u00a0cannot let sin go unpunished.\u00a0<\/li>\n\n\n<li>For a human to be forgiven means sin goes unpunished.<\/li>\n\n\n<li>To win our forgiveness, Jesus &#8211; though perfectly innocent &#8211; had to go to the cross and bear the punishment which we deserved.<\/li>\n\n\n<li>Now that God has meted out His punishment on His Son, He can forgive us.<\/li>\n\n<\/ol>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Point #1 is obviously supported by Scripture, so PSA gets off to a good start.<\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But then the wheels come off immediately at Point #2. Can you show me where Scripture teaches that every sin must be punished by God or else his justice is compromised? (Instead, the Bible says that &#8220;mercy triumphs over judgment&#8221;, James 2:13.)<\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Point #3 is true, but this is simply the definition of &#8220;forgiveness&#8221;! If the forgiven sin must still be punished &#8211; even vicariously as Point #4 would have it &#8211; then that offense was not in fact forgiven.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It was repaid.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If I say, &#8220;I forgive you for lying to me&#8221; and then turn around and punish you for lying to me, did I really forgive you? And how in the world would it make sense for me to punish <i>someone else<\/i> for <i>your <\/i>lie and then call that &#8220;justice&#8221;?<\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Points 4 and 5 are faulty conclusions because they are built on faulty premises.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">What does Scripture say?<\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Do you think this passage from Isaiah 30:18 sounds like the kind of hardcore justice which the God of PSA exhibits? &#8211;<\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"background-color: white\"><i>Therefore the Lord <b>waits to be gracious to you<\/b>, and therefore he exalts himself to show <b>mercy <\/b>to you.<b> For the Lord is a God of justice<\/b>; blessed are all those who wait for him.<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And what can PSA say in the light of Psalm 103:10-14? &#8211;<\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><i>He does not deal with us according to our sins, <b>nor repay us according to our iniquities<\/b>. For as high as the heavens are above the earth, so great is his steadfast <b>love <\/b>toward those who fear him; as far as the east is from the west, so far does he remove our transgressions from us. As a father shows compassion to his children, so the Lord shows compassion to those who fear him. For he knows our frame; he remembers that we are dust.<\/i><\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It&#8217;s fine to spend time hypothesizing about how the cross works, but any resulting theory needs to be grounded in Scripture and it needs to go no further than Scripture allows.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cLove, not anger, brought Jesus to the cross. Golgotha came as a result of God\u2019s great desire to forgive, not his reluctance.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2015 Richard J. Foster<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As far as I can tell, the logic behind Penal Substitutionary Atonement goes like this: Point #1 is obviously supported by Scripture, so PSA gets off to a good start. But then the wheels come off immediately at Point #2. 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