{"id":2866,"date":"2023-11-17T02:33:00","date_gmt":"2023-11-17T02:33:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/stevegrossblog.com\/?p=2866"},"modified":"2026-10-02T01:32:45","modified_gmt":"2026-10-02T01:32:45","slug":"which-creed-do-you-hold-to","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stevegrossblog.com\/?p=2866","title":{"rendered":"WHICH CREED DO YOU HOLD TO?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I got the attention of a Calvinist YouTuber &#8211; <i>Daily Theology 1689<\/i> &#8211; by posting the following comment on his video, &#8220;Election is Biblical&#8221;:<\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;It&#8217;s good to see a Calvinist openly admit they see &#8220;faith&#8221; as a &#8220;work&#8221;. (Although Scripture obviously does not.) Most go to great lengths to dance around this.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">He chose to engage with me to show me where I was wrong in opposing Calvinism, and before long he was asking me, &#8220;What is the gospel?&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I replied: &#8220;Everlasting life and reconciliation with your Creator has been made available to humanity through the life, death, and resurrection of God&#8217;s Son for whosoever believes.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I thought that would rile him up (because of the &#8220;whosoever&#8221;), but the whole thing threw him for a loop. He next asked:<\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;Do you affirm that God is a Trinity? Jesus is fully God and fully man? What creed or confession do you hold to?&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I had no doubt what the answer was for him &#8211; it&#8217;s right there in his YouTube name: He&#8217;s a devotee of the London Baptist Confession of 1689.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">(Those guys apparently got everything 100% correct and there&#8217;s been no need for any believers to do any digging or questioning of their own in the past 334 years.)<\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I wrote back, &#8220;<span style=\"background-color: white;color: #0f0f0f\">Yes, Yes, and there&#8217;s no particular creed or confession that I pledge allegiance to. Why do you ask?&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"color: #0f0f0f\"><span style=\"background-color: white\">This really got to him:<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;Without a statement of faith it&#8217;s difficult to discuss or understand where you are coming from. It may be helpful to write your own statement of faith, affirmations and denials.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But you know what? That&#8217;s what I am actively avoiding these days.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I don&#8217;t have a problem with saying something like &#8220;Here&#8217;s what I currently believe regarding X, Y, and Z theological issues.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But I will not tie my identity to any such position.<\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And I refuse to equate the affirmation of certain propositions about God &#8211; what we casually call &#8220;beliefs&#8221; &#8211; with actual saving <i>belief in Christ<\/i>.\u00a0<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I got the attention of a Calvinist YouTuber &#8211; Daily Theology 1689 &#8211; by posting the following comment on his video, &#8220;Election is Biblical&#8221;: &#8220;It&#8217;s good to see a Calvinist openly admit they see &#8220;faith&#8221; as a &#8220;work&#8221;. (Although Scripture obviously does not.) Most go to great lengths to dance around this.&#8221; He chose to [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2866","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevegrossblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2866","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevegrossblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevegrossblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevegrossblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevegrossblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=2866"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/stevegrossblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2866\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2867,"href":"https:\/\/stevegrossblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2866\/revisions\/2867"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevegrossblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=2866"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevegrossblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=2866"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevegrossblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=2866"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}