{"id":8377,"date":"2024-08-24T02:47:00","date_gmt":"2024-08-24T02:47:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/stevegrossblog.com\/?p=8377"},"modified":"2026-10-02T01:31:58","modified_gmt":"2026-10-02T01:31:58","slug":"thoughts-on-once-saved-always-saved","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stevegrossblog.com\/?p=8377","title":{"rendered":"THOUGHTS ON &#8220;ONCE SAVED, ALWAYS SAVED&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I like to listen to theological debates on YouTube. Most of the time the topics are various aspects of Calvinism &#8211; how sinful is humanity? do humans have free will? would God send a baby to hell?<\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The one topic I have absolutely no interest in is &#8220;once saved, always saved&#8221;.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For one thing, it doesn&#8217;t take long to find strong proof texts on both sides of that debate. So if you&#8217;re just looking at individual verses (ripped out of context), it is going to be tough to get any traction for your side in the debate.<\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But what really bothers me is the nature of the question itself &#8211; in that it\u00a0springs from a strictly transactional conception of salvation.<\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If I do this or that thing <u><b>correctly<\/b><\/u>, then God will allow me into heaven. Maybe if I say the magic prayer? Or &#8220;confess with my lips&#8221;? But what exactly do I confess with my lips?<\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The trick, apparently, is knowing the correct way to do that thing that needs to be done.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And a lot of people get very anxious because they think (most days) that they are probably doing it correctly, but in their darker moments they are afraid they are not.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But faith, in the end, isn&#8217;t about saying the magic words or verbally assenting to a handful of propositional truths.<\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Jesus is inviting you and me into a relationship with Him, and the Father, through the Holy Spirit. That&#8217;s a completely different sort of arrangement.<\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So can you lose your salvation?<\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Well, can a relationship fall apart even when one side is perfectly loving and forgiving?\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">You betcha.<\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ever met someone whose spouse &#8211; 25 years into the relationship &#8211; decides to cheat and then permanently chooses the fling over the loving spouse?<\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I have.<\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Does it happen often?\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Thankfully, no.\u00a0<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I like to listen to theological debates on YouTube. Most of the time the topics are various aspects of Calvinism &#8211; how sinful is humanity? do humans have free will? would God send a baby to hell? The one topic I have absolutely no interest in is &#8220;once saved, always saved&#8221;.\u00a0 For one thing, it [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-8377","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevegrossblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8377","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevegrossblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevegrossblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevegrossblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevegrossblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=8377"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/stevegrossblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8377\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":8378,"href":"https:\/\/stevegrossblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8377\/revisions\/8378"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevegrossblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=8377"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevegrossblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=8377"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevegrossblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=8377"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}