{"id":9292,"date":"2023-02-03T03:37:00","date_gmt":"2023-02-03T03:37:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/stevegrossblog.com\/?p=9292"},"modified":"2026-10-02T01:33:12","modified_gmt":"2026-10-02T01:33:12","slug":"which-came-first","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stevegrossblog.com\/?p=9292","title":{"rendered":"WHICH CAME FIRST?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"background-color: white;color: #6a6a6a\">Recently I cited a study on &#8220;The State of Theology&#8221; in the U.S. which showed some disturbing trends regarding American beliefs about what Scripture teaches. I revisited the website this week because I thought some of its information might be useful for my upcoming sermon.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"background-color: white;color: #6a6a6a\">The first time I looked at it, I hadn&#8217;t paid too much attention to the sponsor of the report &#8211; Ligonier Ministries.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"background-color: white;color: #6a6a6a\">That&#8217;s R.C. Sproul&#8217;s legacy, so there&#8217;s a decidedly Calvinist bent to a couple of the questions.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"background-color: white;color: #6a6a6a\">Take for example &#8220;Statement #10&#8221; with which respondents were asked to agree or disagree:<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEh2hzrKDUBONFRHAKfZ1O0Al19furiZNbDOK_sStCDq1ckhDaEw039v6wImuEltkIT7mXp2N709b3iM1kzrQdNdUABQFzQs1xGEMftW70KF-KynaKgd--NkPz2JhPpb909trtFgS-JTIk7D5G2MNHSSRs3i1BFLBjYoHHz2rN16aD7rcwqBZiOoiZYj\/w640-h302\/Calvinist%20Question%2010.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"605\" height=\"286\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"background-color: white;color: #6a6a6a\">The study found 21% of Evangelicals responded with &#8220;Somewhat Agree&#8221; and 37% with &#8220;Strongly Agree&#8221;!\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">According to the authors of the study, these folks got the answer right because the statement is true.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Here&#8217;s their rationale:<\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"background-color: white;color: #6a6a6a\">&#8220;Jesus told Nicodemus that a person must be born again before he can see or enter the kingdom of God (John 3:3\u20135). Even the faith by which we enter the kingdom is a gift of God, who by His Spirit brings us to new spiritual life so that we can trust in Christ (Eph. 2:1\u201310). The Spirit, therefore, must give us new life before we can believe (Rom. 8:1\u201311).&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"background-color: white;color: #6a6a6a\">This is cherry-picking Scripture passages to find support for a purely Calvinist paradigm and they are ignoring all of the other verses which have belief coming before the new birth.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"background-color: white;color: #6a6a6a\">If you look up the cited verses, you might find yourself scratching your head as to how they prove that you must be born again before you can have faith.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"background-color: white;color: #6a6a6a\">Apparently, you need to be wearing Calvinist glasses in order to see it.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"background-color: white;color: #6a6a6a\">I was saddened to see only 8% rated their opinion as &#8220;Somewhat Disagree&#8221; and only 19% said &#8220;Strongly Disagree&#8221;.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"background-color: white;color: #6a6a6a\">People don&#8217;t understand what the Bible has to say about the Order of Salvation.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"background-color: white\"><span style=\"color: #6a6a6a;font-size: large\">You can see the entire study at <a href=\"http:\/\/thestateoftheology.com\">thestateoftheology.com<\/a>.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Recently I cited a study on &#8220;The State of Theology&#8221; in the U.S. which showed some disturbing trends regarding American beliefs about what Scripture teaches. I revisited the website this week because I thought some of its information might be useful for my upcoming sermon. 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